A Message to Old Returning Players

Discussion in 'Updates & Announcements' started by NobleProductions, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. NobleProductions

    NobleProductions Network Owner Owner Build Team Lead

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    This still holds true. The Trello board is still open to discussion. Unfortunately for us, Lew_ is away throughout the second half of July, and the entirety of August (Just as he was last year), and will be working on KitPvP 2.0 once he is back. Had he worked solely on KitPvP 2.0 prior to leaving, we would not have the new drop party system, the new warp system, the casino, and the stats system. Now I'm very certain those four features are core to making Survival 2.0 what it is, so I'm sure many would disagree with your presumptions.

    I'm guessing you haven't heard, have you? Did you know that this isn't a job? This server makes nowhere near enough to be considered something I could take up full time. I'm not in school, nor am I in college like I was last year, or the previous 4 years. I have to make a living somehow. Alongside this, nobody on our Admin team is paid to do what they do, they do this because they care about this server, but again, just like myself, they cannot dedicate 100% of their time to this alone. They have their own lives they have to deal with before this server. That's simply something you will have to deal with if you want to be here, but I guess that's not good enough for you.

    Sure, let me throw away nearly 5 years of work just because it isn't doing as popular as it has done before. Keywords in that sentence being 'as popular'. Like I said in this thread, just because there aren't as many people now as there were before is not indicative of whether the server is better or worse.

    Just like I mentioned in the previous announcement, Skyblock is coming. KitPvP will be following that, and maybe Prison will eventually come after that, but before then, I have work to do.
     
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  2. Cyalenzer

    Cyalenzer Jedi Sage

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    Levels should have been more of an achievement type function rather than pay money to level.

    Such as in order to get to B-1, you have to mine X amount of redstone. Or maybe to get to B-2 you have to level up your Excavation to 100. Stuff like that. Something that would have kept players active rather than inactive.

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    But yes. You're right. I don't see a way to change from the current way because, you're right again, it'll just upset the current community.
     
  3. Incomp

    Incomp NCDT Co-Lead Leadership Developer Applications Quality Assurance

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    I'd love to just reinstate the AFK kicking mechanism for all players. Not even staff would be safe from this calamity, save for us badmins and above. I don't care if it means that a good chunk of the online players would be kicked; maybe it'll give them more of a reason to be active on the server, indirectly prompting them to explore more of what we have to offer.

    On the other hand...
    Maybe we should be spending more time working on the server. It always irks me a little; a few players think that we spend a lot less time than we do on the network. While that is definitely reasonable to think, I'd like to express that the admin chat is very enthusiastic. It's awesome to see Tom and NobleProductions so motivated, along with Lew's little tangents every now and then. I'll admit: I have not been very active recently. However, I've got a pretty solid excuse. Y'know, the whimsical adventures of setting up for college. It's been a pretty rude sandstorm (sorry), and the free time I could get wasn't time I was willing to spend coding. That's not to guilt-trip you or get your sympathy. Instead, it shows that even us admins have to deal with an annoying thing called life. Same goes for all staff.

    That's a good idea. I could even make it use your tracked statistics (blocks broken, distance traveled, etc). The reason why it's been using money to level up is pretty simple once you think about it. We thought that money would be a good way to gauge how active a player has been. We forgot about the AFK farms.
     
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  4. Zombo_

    Zombo_ Noble Craft Admin Leadership Staff Management Applications

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    I would just like to say that Incomp, Lew_, Noble and Nedthefed work their butts off on the server. It might not seem like it, but they're always working on the server. A lot of time goes into a new game, a new plugin or just managing the server. I'm all for hearing constructive criticism, but what people have been doing lately is more hate speech with no suggestions on how we can improve. If you do not like something, tell us POLITELY why and, how we can change it! We hate hearing players just call out the network for not being how it was before, and offering no suggestions. This will be something that we will be stopping from now on, as we want to see our players interact positively with the network. We still value opinions, and you are free to share yours, but please offer suggestions on how to improve what you dislike so that it can be constructive!
     
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  5. shawnpippin100

    shawnpippin100 Forum Master Premium

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    I mean one suggestion is actually respond to store issues, I was told by noble, More to talk about me wanting to combine 2 ranks me marv had 50messages about it when he was owner, I've had NO Response since last october about it from noble/staff in the thread in store issues.I even had freeze bring it up to noble or staff and they don't even acknowledge it.
     
  6. Cyalenzer

    Cyalenzer Jedi Sage

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    AFK Farms are only a huge thing because the Admin Shop allows items that can be AFK Farmed to be sold.. If 2.0 was made with an Admin Shop that was Buy-Only then players would have to use the custom jobs you guys made to obtain money. However, the only reason the jobs aren't ideal is because: 1. People are lazy. 2. They don't give much payment. 3. People are really lazy.

    Sad to say but most Noble Craft players have a sense of entitlement. They feel things should be made easy for them because "if you don't I'll quit". I'm pretty sure fly and silk was put in just to make people happy, at the cost of them having to work for it. Which no one really has worked for their levels.
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    Come to think of it... if Noble Craft increased job payments substantially, probably 300% more than what it currently offers since level ranks cost A LOT, and enabled AFK kicks. You'd be able to switch from the current AFK Farmers to more active players. The only reason jobs aren't really cared for is because Levels require tons of cash and after an hour of doing jobs such as Excavation, you barely have enough for B-8. The current job payment you have would have been great if Levels didn't cost more than you could make in a week of playing. But since you have some Levels reaching the millions, you'll have to compensate and increase money generation from doing jobs.

    This requires a lot of tweaking and constant testing. As you'll want to be able to have a player make just enough money but it also has to have some ease and be worth doing.

    So if I'm walking around mining for 30 minutes and I'm able to make $2,500, then that would make that job worth it.
    I don't really find Hunting a good job because players can just make a vanilla mob farm and use a mod to auto swing. So maybe remove that.

    A job like herbalist would require more work than mining because you'd have to build the farm and wait for things to grow. Something that can be tweaked and played with.
     
  7. Pabl0tron

    Pabl0tron OP-Prison Staff Noble VIP

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    Wish I could come back. btw, hey _Luv ;) I would always love to try Survival 2.0 even though I haven't heard much about it. Still having problems with loading the versions of MC.
     
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  8. CookieLuv_

    CookieLuv_ Forum Master

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    Hey Pablipop, if you ever are able to join, I'll show you around.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 28, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 28, 2016 ---
    Also, if I may pitch in my opinion on AFK farms it's this: We all know that ranking up isn't easy once you starting getting to my position (Diamond+), so you have to find ways to make money and fast. I disagree with whomever said that AFK farms are because you are lazy and don't want to do work. I currently have about 6-7 farms, only one of them being an AFK farm (Cactus farm). Doesn't mean I'm lazy, I still cater to my other farms. Although removing them won't bring rainbows and sunshine because I know that it will receive a lot of hate, I personally wouldn't like the idea of removing them either. What could help with the AFK people problem is having more players online, I know it was mentioned that the AFK people may discourage new players from playing. With the new servers being added there is bound to be new players and if we oblige to the player's wishes then more will come on and invite their friends. New servers like Kitpvp and Skyblock (maybe Prison), new players can filter out all the AFK people. I know I can bring my friends on here, some of you can do the same. Also to what Cptbubbles848 was saying, no I was not implying that the update was solely to bring tons of new players online. So basically in a nutshell I just want to say that keep improving the servers, bring back Kitpvp and Skyblock and I'm sure we can get more players online.
     
  9. PC_NERDZ

    PC_NERDZ Member

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    Lively doesn't mean 50+ players everyday. It means its ALIVE, which, btw, CAN happen with less than 20 players.
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    No duh if you got on at 2 am most people are AFK, most people are ASLEEP at 2 am in their respective timezones
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    Curse you, LIFE! Y U DO DIS?
     
  10. Cyalenzer

    Cyalenzer Jedi Sage

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    That's such a crap response. You must have missed the part where I said if I were AUSTRALIAN. If you don't know, NC had a pretty good population of Australians.

    So if I'm AUSTRALIAN and I come on at 2 AM EDT (mother ****ing US-EAST TIME IF YOU KNOW YOUR TIMEZONES!) which is 4 PM AEST if you're in Melbourne and saw everyone AFK, I WOULD LEAVE. FLAT ****ing LEAVE.
     
  11. Fluf_

    Fluf_ Active Build Team Sponsor

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    All my opinions have already been stated, but the only thing I'd like to reiterate is that the staff teams are constantly working. Honestly, it gets me so angry when I see players complaining that we "don't do enough work". Enough work? Most players that say this have never been a part of any NC staff team, let alone any official staff team. To think that we don't do enough is simply oblivious. The reason we are even on these teams, as Noble had said, is because we care about the server. We give up our lives, simply to please and entertain you all to the best we can. My job isn't easy, but I can't imagine how bad it is for the staff, let alone the admins. If we had less people complaining, and more people trying to incorporate suggestions, then everyone on the server would have a much better time.

    This may be something that comes with maturity (hell if I know), but there comes a point in life when you learn to just let go. Some things really don't need to be argued.

    I don't expect any of you to listen, but the ones that do, I hope my opinion meant something.
     
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  12. CookieLuv_

    CookieLuv_ Forum Master

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    Then again not ALL the staff are in a team, lol...
     
  13. nedthefed

    nedthefed Tom The British Chocolate Bar Leadership Content Management Admin Staff Management Applications Quality Assurance VIP

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    Oh boy if you saw the amount of maths I do for NC's content
     
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  14. TedNC

    TedNC NobleCraft Member Since 2013 Noble VIP

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    This conversation is huge :3
     
  15. shawnpippin100

    shawnpippin100 Forum Master Premium

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    I do agree,But staff aren't forced and they should know if they want to be staff with what their gonna put up with.I do agree they do need to have recognition to a certain extent And for people to not tell them that their not working hard enough.
     

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